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Poster: cooperway4 Date: Jan 6, 2011 8:23pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: 100 Movies In The Public Domain

One-Eyed Jacks (1961)
144 min - Sep 17, 2006
video.google.com

I find it hard to believe that this has been available for over 4 years and no rights claimer has sought it's removal. So it's obvious that Warner doesn't own the rights even though they own the master print because anything they have rights to is caught faster than you can shake a stick.

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Poster: HektorT Date: Jan 23, 2011 4:07pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: 100 Movies In The Public Domain

One Eyed Jacks was released without a valid notice, that is why it's PD. When you know the history of that film, it's no surprise that an omission was made. It's also why there are more than a dozen DVD versions of it available.

Brother from Another Planet is also legitimate PD based on a proprietary list published by one of the most reputable PD houses. There are others noted above as not PD that are questionable as well. Perhaps they don't pass the "acid-tests" promoted here, but those are not the only rules.

This post was modified by HektorT on 2011-01-24 00:07:22

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Poster: Video-Cellar Date: Jan 23, 2011 5:37pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: 100 Movies In The Public Domain

One Eyed Jacks

The copyright notice on original prints was "COPYRIGHT © 1960 by PENNEBAKER,INC." see below attachment.


Brother From Another Planet.

The film is covered by copyright, because it carried a valid notice, and could not be termed "Public Domain". However, as it was not registered, statutory damages are not available to the copyright owner. Many PD distributors are willing to take the risk on these films. However, that does not change the fact that they are copyright, not public domain, regardless to the limited penalties for use (the penalties are limited to actual damages and legal fees, which could be substantial if an infringement was taken to court).

Attachment: OEJ_Copy_Notice_1.jpg
Attachment: OEJ_Copy_Notice_2.jpg

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Poster: Video-Cellar Date: Jan 6, 2011 8:37pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: 100 Movies In The Public Domain

This was an independent feature which was not owned by the major studios. The copyright was renewed properly-

Type of Work: Motion Picture
Registration Number / Date: RE0000409372 / 1988-12-29
Renewal registration for: LP0000019590 / 1960-12-31
Title: One-eyed jacks. By Pennebaker, Inc.
Copyright Claimant: David R. Baer (PWH)

Variant title: One-eyed jacks.
Names: Baer, David R.
Pennebaker, Inc.


Why hasn't the Google video version been removed by the copyright owner? Maybe because they put it there so people visiting the film's official website can watch it.

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Poster: cooperway4 Date: Jan 8, 2011 6:45pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: 100 Movies In The Public Domain

David R. Bear has made false copyright claims before. Take Hatari! (1962) for example:

Title: Hatari. By Malabar Productions.
Type of Work: Motion Picture
Registration Number / Date: RE0000459859 / 1989-12-27
Renewal registration for: LP0000022962 / 1961-12-31
Title: Hatari. By Malabar Productions.
Copyright Claimant: David R. Baer (PWH)

Variant title: Hatari.
Names: Baer, David R.
Malabar Productions.


is a fraudulent renewal while

Hatari. By Paramount Pictures Corporation and Malabar Productions, Inc.
Type of Work: Motion Picture
Registration Number / Date: RE0000479374 / 1990-01-02
Renewal registration for: LP0000022962 / 1961-12-31
Title: Hatari. By Paramount Pictures Corporation and Malabar Productions, Inc.
Copyright Claimant: Paramount Pictures Corporation (PWH)
Copyright Note: Entered under 17 USC sec. 703 C.O. correspondence.

Variant title: Hatari.
Names: Malabar Productions, Inc.
Paramount Pictures Corporation

is the real one. Maybe you should do more research first before claiming widely accepted public domain movies aren't.

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Poster: Video-Cellar Date: Jan 8, 2011 7:29pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: 100 Movies In The Public Domain

Do some research before you claim that movies containing copyright material are public domain.

One eyed jacks; love theme. m Paramount Pictures Corporation, employer for...
Type of Work: Music
Registration Number / Date: RE0000366164 / 1988-01-05
Renewal registration for: EU0000630122 / 1960-06-30
Title: One eyed jacks; love theme. m Paramount Pictures Corporation, employer for hire of Hugo W. Friedhofer.
Copyright Claimant: Famous Music Corporation (PWH)

Variant title: One eyed jacks
Names: Friedhofer, Hugo W.
Paramount Pictures Corporation
Famous Music Corporation

Love theme from One eyed jacks. m Hugo W. Friedhofer.
Type of Work: Music
Registration Number / Date: RE0000423771 / 1989-01-05
Renewal registration for: EP0000150281 / 1961-03-24
Title: Love theme from One eyed jacks. m Hugo W. Friedhofer.
Copyright Claimant: Famous Music Corporation (PWH)
Basis of Claim: New Matter: piano arr.

Variant title: Love theme from One eyed jacks
Other Title: One eyed jacks
Names: Friedhofer, Hugo W.
Famous Music Corporation

One eyed jacks. m Paramount Pictures Corporation, employer for hire of...
Type of Work: Music
Registration Number / Date: RE0000423694 / 1989-01-05
Renewal registration for: EU0000662308 / 1961-03-13
Title: One eyed jacks. m Paramount Pictures Corporation, employer for hire of Hugo W. Friedhofer.
Notes: Score.
Copyright Claimant: Famous Music Corporation (PWH)

Variant title: One eyed jacks
Names: Friedhofer, Hugo W.
Paramount Pictures Corporation
Famous Music Corporation

Louisa; love theme from One eyed jacks. w McKayla Morgan, m Paramount...
Type of Work: Music
Registration Number / Date: RE0000423734 / 1989-01-05
Renewal registration for: EU0000681187 / 1961-08-02
Title: Louisa; love theme from One eyed jacks. w McKayla Morgan, m Paramount Pictures Corporation, employer for hire of Hugo Friedhofer.
Copyright Claimant: Famous Music Corporation (PWH of Hugo Friedhofer)

Variant title: Louisa
Other Title: One eyed jacks
Names: Morgan, McKayla
Friedhofer, Hugo
Paramount Pictures Corporation
Famous Music Corporation

Louisa; love theme from One eyed jacks. w McKayla Morgan, m Paramount...
Type of Work: Music
Registration Number / Date: RE0000423733 / 1989-01-05
Renewal registration for: EU0000681187 / 1961-08-02
Title: Louisa; love theme from One eyed jacks. w McKayla Morgan, m Paramount Pictures Corporation, employer for hire of Hugo Friedhofer.
Copyright Claimant: McKayla Morgan (A)

Variant title: Louisa
Other Title: One eyed jacks
Names: Morgan, McKayla
Friedhofer, Hugo
Paramount Pictures Corporation

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Poster: cooperway4 Date: Jan 6, 2011 10:49pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: 100 Movies In The Public Domain

http://www.theoutlawmovie.bravehost.com/

Here's another so-called official movie site. This guy has tons of them (okay, at least three). It appears he put movies he believes are public domain in them.

Not to mention all these people think One-Eyed Jacks is public domain: http://www.hometheaterforum.com/forum/thread/256423/one-eyed-jacks-will-paramount-ever-rescue-it-from-public-domain-hell

And once again I ask - why would someone care if the supposed rights' holders haven't even cared for well over a decade whether these movies are being viewed as public domain?

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Poster: Video-Cellar Date: Jan 7, 2011 12:23am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: 100 Movies In The Public Domain

Doesn't change that the film was renewed and all of the music and underlying copyrights were renewed. The neglect might make it an orphan work, but it is not in the public domain.

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Poster: cooperway4 Date: Jan 7, 2011 12:45am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: 100 Movies In The Public Domain

I agree. My point was that's not a very official movie site.